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Ted's Table

Dec. 6, 1999

This Week, Ted Tackles: Can my employer force me to take a lump-sum distribution? … I’m moving to the U.S., can I roll retirement money saved overseas into a 401(k) … What’s the tax impact on a 401(k) if the owner dies? … How do I calculate early distributions? … Where can I find information about the safe-harbor law? … How do I set up a 401(k) plan for a small business?

Question: I'm 55 years old with over $1 million in my 401(k) plan. My employer is downsizing me out of my job. As I understand it, I can avail myself of the §72(t) provision that will permit me to make essentially unlimited withdrawals from my account without paying the 10% penalty, leaving regular federal and state tax to be paid on those withdrawals.

My employer told me I can only take periodic withdrawals from my account for 18 months after which I must either cease the withdrawals or take a lump-sum distribution.

This leaves me in limbo with no money to live on or forces me into the §72(t) substantially equal periodic payments exception. Can my employer do this to me? It would seem that my employer would be required to support some form of periodic distributions at least until I attain the age of 59½?

TB: Employers aren't required to include a provision in their plans to permit periodic distributions. Most plans provide only for lump-sum distributions. You will need to explore various alternatives to determine what will be best for you. Among the possibilities are doing less than a full rollover to an IRA and/or withdrawing some money from that IRA prior to 59½ even though you will incur the 10% penalty tax. You should also consider using other assets to live on until you reach age 59½, including home equity.

Question: I've been working for a U.S. multinational company at a location outside the U.S. for 10 years. I've been contributing to a 401(k)-style retirement fund with matching contributions from the company. I have been transferred to the U.S. I will be immigrating to the U.S. and plan to become a permanent resident. My company offers a 401(k) plan in the U.S. Can I roll over my existing retirement savings in the non-401(k) fund from outside the U.S. to my new account in the 401(k) in the U.S.? What are the tax implications?

TB: You can roll over the money from the prior plan to your new 401(k) if your new employer will accept the transfer and if the prior plan was a U.S. tax-qualified retirement plan. You should check with your former employer to find out whether the plan you were contributing to was a U.S.-tax-qualified retirement plan.

Question: What's the tax impact on a 401(k) if the 401(k)-holder dies? Are there both an income tax and an estate tax to be paid? If so, this leaves very little 401(k) money for the beneficiary if the 401(k) investments add to other assets that already exceed the $650,000 estate deduction allowed.

TB: Your 401(k) balance will be subject to both Federal income tax and estate tax. The full balance is included as part of your estate. If you're married, you should do some estate planning to do whatever you can to reduce the tax bite.

Question: I'm planning to take annual early distributions from my 401(k) in line with tax laws. I've researched and understand the law with regard to this distribution method. Can you please advise the proper calculation method for calculating these distributions?

TB: I don't do these computations so I would recommend getting help from a tax professional who knows the correct way of doing this.

Question: What is the safe-harbor law on 401(k) programs and where can I find a copy of this law?

TB: The actual law that created the 401(k) "safe harbor" plan is the Small Business Job Protection Act of 1996. IRS Notice 98-52 provides extensive guidance on the safe harbors. You can also find additional information in trade publications such as "The 401(k) Handbook," which is published by Thompson Publishing Group.

Question: I'm an employer (sole proprietor) and am starting a safe harbor 401(k) plan for myself and two full-time employees. I set this up through a third-party administrator, who has recommended that I invest the proceeds (both employee and employer contributions for all three of us) in one "lump." This makes sense to me initially, as my employees' share will be small for a while. But what about when the account balance begins to grow? Is there a way to divide up the account to allow individual investing by each participant? I'm not sure I want the responsibility of investing my employees' retirement money.

TB: The method recommended by your third-party administrator makes sense for a small plan with only three employees. You're correct that as account balances grow, the other employees are likely to prefer having the opportunity to control the investment of their own funds. If your third-party administrator uses a balance-forward recordkeeping system, it will be more difficult and expensive when you change to a participant-directed plan. I recommend sticking with mutual funds where the third-party administrator allocates the actual fund shares by participant.

Ted Benna, creator of the first 401(k) retirement savings plan, will answer your most intriguing questions every Monday. With over 30 years of experience as an employee benefits consultant, Ted is a nationally recognized expert on benefits issues. He has authored two books, Helping Employees Achieve Retirement Income Security and Escaping the Coming Retirement Crisis, and is President of the 401(k) Association. Ted is a frequent speaker at meetings of 401(k) plan sponsors and participants. His articles and comments have appeared in numerous publications, including The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal.


The information provided here is intended to help you understand the general issue and does not constitute any tax, investment or legal advice. Consult your financial, tax or legal advisor regarding your own unique situation and your company's benefits representative for rules specific to your plan.
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Ted's Table

Dec. 6, 1999

This Week, Ted Tackles: Can my employer force me to take a lump-sum distribution? … I’m moving to the U.S., can I roll retirement money saved overseas into a 401(k) … What’s the tax impact on a 401(k) if the owner dies? … How do I calculate early distributions? … Where can I find information about the safe-harbor law? … How do I set up a 401(k) plan for a small business?

Question: I'm 55 years old with over $1 million in my 401(k) plan. My employer is downsizing me out of my job. As I understand it, I can avail myself of the §72(t) provision that will permit me to make essentially unlimited withdrawals from my account without paying the 10% penalty, leaving regular federal and state tax to be paid on those withdrawals.

My employer told me I can only take periodic withdrawals from my account for 18 months after which I must either cease the withdrawals or take a lump-sum distribution.

This leaves me in limbo with no money to live on or forces me into the §72(t) substantially equal periodic payments exception. Can my employer do this to me? It would seem that my employer would be required to support some form of periodic distributions at least until I attain the age of 59½?

TB: Employers aren't required to include a provision in their plans to permit periodic distributions. Most plans provide only for lump-sum distributions. You will need to explore various alternatives to determine what will be best for you. Among the possibilities are doing less than a full rollover to an IRA and/or withdrawing some money from that IRA prior to 59½ even though you will incur the 10% penalty tax. You should also consider using other assets to live on until you reach age 59½, including home equity.

Question: I've been working for a U.S. multinational company at a location outside the U.S. for 10 years. I've been contributing to a 401(k)-style retirement fund with matching contributions from the company. I have been transferred to the U.S. I will be immigrating to the U.S. and plan to become a permanent resident. My company offers a 401(k) plan in the U.S. Can I roll over my existing retirement savings in the non-401(k) fund from outside the U.S. to my new account in the 401(k) in the U.S.? What are the tax implications?

TB: You can roll over the money from the prior plan to your new 401(k) if your new employer will accept the transfer and if the prior plan was a U.S. tax-qualified retirement plan. You should check with your former employer to find out whether the plan you were contributing to was a U.S.-tax-qualified retirement plan.

Question: What's the tax impact on a 401(k) if the 401(k)-holder dies? Are there both an income tax and an estate tax to be paid? If so, this leaves very little 401(k) money for the beneficiary if the 401(k) investments add to other assets that already exceed the $650,000 estate deduction allowed.

TB: Your 401(k) balance will be subject to both Federal income tax and estate tax. The full balance is included as part of your estate. If you're married, you should do some estate planning to do whatever you can to reduce the tax bite.

Question: I'm planning to take annual early distributions from my 401(k) in line with tax laws. I've researched and understand the law with regard to this distribution method. Can you please advise the proper calculation method for calculating these distributions?

TB: I don't do these computations so I would recommend getting help from a tax professional who knows the correct way of doing this.

Question: What is the safe-harbor law on 401(k) programs and where can I find a copy of this law?

TB: The actual law that created the 401(k) "safe harbor" plan is the Small Business Job Protection Act of 1996. IRS Notice 98-52 provides extensive guidance on the safe harbors. You can also find additional information in trade publications such as "The 401(k) Handbook," which is published by Thompson Publishing Group.

Question: I'm an employer (sole proprietor) and am starting a safe harbor 401(k) plan for myself and two full-time employees. I set this up through a third-party administrator, who has recommended that I invest the proceeds (both employee and employer contributions for all three of us) in one "lump." This makes sense to me initially, as my employees' share will be small for a while. But what about when the account balance begins to grow? Is there a way to divide up the account to allow individual investing by each participant? I'm not sure I want the responsibility of investing my employees' retirement money.

TB: The method recommended by your third-party administrator makes sense for a small plan with only three employees. You're correct that as account balances grow, the other employees are likely to prefer having the opportunity to control the investment of their own funds. If your third-party administrator uses a balance-forward recordkeeping system, it will be more difficult and expensive when you change to a participant-directed plan. I recommend sticking with mutual funds where the third-party administrator allocates the actual fund shares by participant.

Ted Benna, creator of the first 401(k) retirement savings plan, will answer your most intriguing questions every Monday. With over 30 years of experience as an employee benefits consultant, Ted is a nationally recognized expert on benefits issues. He has authored two books, Helping Employees Achieve Retirement Income Security and Escaping the Coming Retirement Crisis, and is President of the 401(k) Association. Ted is a frequent speaker at meetings of 401(k) plan sponsors and participants. His articles and comments have appeared in numerous publications, including The New York Times and The Wall Street Journal.


The information provided here is intended to help you understand the general issue and does not constitute any tax, investment or legal advice. Consult your financial, tax or legal advisor regarding your own unique situation and your company's benefits representative for rules specific to your plan.
401Kafe.com is the premier online community resource for 401(k) participants


Copyright © 1996 - 2000 mPower. All Rights Reserved.