Dec. 13, 1999
This Week, Ted Tackles:
ESOPs and the 25% maximum contribution limit … Should I put after-tax money into my 401(k)? … In a 401(k)-IRA rollover, are capital gains considered after-tax money that can't be rolled over?… What are the tax advantages of company stock in a 401(k) plan? … What happens if I'm laid off and have an outstanding loan against my 401(k)? … Do employers have to return forfeited company matching contributions if the employee is rehired within five years?
Question: As a worker with a company offering an employee stock ownership program (ESOP), how can I keep my 401(k) contributions tax-deferred? The IRS says the value of my company stock is deferred and therefore puts me over the 25% maximum-contribution limit. Is there any other option for deferred money?
TB: Not for the moment. The tax-reduction bill that was passed by Congress, but vetoed by the President, earlier this year contained a provision eliminating the 25% maximum-contribution limit. Your problem would have been solved had this bill been enacted. This change will probably be included in a tax bill next year, hopefully one that is enacted. Until the 25% limit is removed, the amount you may contribute will be limited. Being able to shelter 25% of your income is a big break, so be thankful for what you have, including the employer contributions to the ESOP for now.
Question: I currently contribute 10% of my salary (pre-tax dollars) to my 401(k). To max it out, I'm allowed to contribute 6% more but these would be post-tax dollars. Is it a good idea to do this? There's no company match on that 6%.
TB: Continuing to put money into the plan after tax has some worthwhile benefits. The first is the semi-automatic savings through payroll deduction. Most of us aren't able to save as effectively when we have to do it on our own. Next, the income and gains are tax-deferred. Third, the money is accessible if you need it.
Your company should change its plan to permit you to contribute up to 16% of your pay pre-tax, subject to the $10,500 maximum limit for the year 2000. You should be permitted to contribute more than 10% pre-tax if you haven't hit the maximum-dollar limit and if you aren't one of the highly compensated employees.
Question: I'm currently 47 and plan to retire next July at age 48. I have approximately $350,000 in my 401(k). It's my understanding that after-tax money can't be rolled over to an IRA along with the before-tax money. Is the after-tax money only the money I have contributed or does it include the capital gains also? If capital gains are included what are my tax liabilities on the distribution? I plan on rolling my before-tax portion along with the cash buyout to an IRA.
TB: You should be able to roll over everything but your after-tax contributions. The entire amount that would be taxable should be eligible to be rolled over.
As a separate issue, I strongly recommend carefully considering your plan. The $350,000 amount probably will not be sufficient for you to retire at age 47. Assuming a 3.5% inflation rate, a moderate investment portfolio, and that you live for another 30 years, this sum will provide approximately $20,000 per year of inflation-adjusted income. This isn't very much, particularly if you have to pay for your own medical insurance.
Most individuals who retire early fail to consider the impact of inflation. Remember, $30,000 of income today will have only $15,000 of buying power 20 years from now if the inflation rate is 3.5%. You will need $60,000 per year 20 years from now to buy what $30,000 will buy today. You will be only 67 at that time. You might live for another 20 years or so after that.
Question: I was previously in a 401(k) plan in which my contributions and the employer match were invested in employer stock. When I left the company, I requested a distribution of the stock and rolled over the stock certificates into an IRA. I subsequently sold the stock. I read an IRS notice or other publication in 1998 that stated a distribution of employer stock would be viewed as already having been held for 12 months. It seems the only purpose of such a clarification would be relative to some capital gains treatment. Are you aware of such an IRS notice or other publication? Does the distribution of employer stock from a 401(k) get capital gains treatment? If so, did I err in rolling over to an IRA? If so, since this all occurred in 1999, is it possible to unwind the rollover?
TB: Employer stock receives a special tax break only when the stock is distributed and not rolled over. The stock is taxed when it is received at the value of the stock when it was acquired by the plan. The spread between this base and the value when the stock is sold is taxable as a capital gain. You lost this potential tax advantage when you rolled the stock into an IRA. To reverse this transaction, you would need to return the stock to the plan and then have the stock distributed directly to you. I don't think this can be legally accomplished at this point. Even if it can be, your former employer and the organization where you rolled the stock into the IRA aren't likely to want to be involved in reversing this transaction.
By the way, what you have done may not be an error. If you need to use this money to provide income during your retirement years, what you have done may be the best alternative. Taking a distribution of the stock is most attractive when you have enough money from other sources to pay the resulting tax on the stock distribution and if you are able to retain the stock to pass it to your heirs. In this instance, the stock passes to the heirs without being subject to tax on the gain.
Question: A financial newsletter I recently read was talking about 401(k) loans. It said the biggest danger to taking a loan was if you were laid off from your job. In that case, the outstanding loan amount would be reported as regular income and you would owe the taxes right away.
Am I misunderstanding, or, does the company file a 1099 and you report it the next time your taxes are due? The writers made it sound as if the IRS deducts the amount of taxes and penalty immediately from what is left in your 401(k), thereby, as they put it, wiping out your retirement plan, potentially. Could you please set the matter straight?
TB: The answer involves two separate issues. The first is when the distribution is reported to IRS. The 1099 usually is filed during January of the year after the distribution has occurred. This form lets the IRS know the distribution has occurred and the taxable amount.
The other issue involves the actual process of closing out your total account. Assume you're laid off during April and you receive the paperwork from the employer two weeks later explaining your options. Next, you request your employer to distribute the entire account to you. It will be necessary to deduct the mandatory tax that must be withheld when a distribution is made directly to you. This tax is paid to the IRS. Your actual liability is determined when you file your tax return. The amount that was withheld may or may not be adequate to cover your actual tax liability.
Bottom line: the timing of the actual distribution will be governed by your plan's administrative process including when you make your decision.
Question: What happens to unvested, and subsequently forfeited, company-matching contributions? A friend of mine terminated employment with our company when she had two years and 10 months service and had been contributing to the company's 401(k) plan. The plan has three-year cliff vesting.
When she left the company she didn't take a distribution, but left the money in the 401(k) plan. The company recouped the unvested match and, according to the plan's design, used the money to reduce future matching obligations. My friend was rehired one year later. The company match that had been forfeited was returned to her account.
Is the return of the forfeited contribution if an employee is rehired within five years a legal requirement? Also, The forfeited amount had been 100% invested in a fund that returned over 25% in the year that she wasn't employed. The forfeited match was reinstated without earnings. I had thought that forfeited matching contributions had to stay invested for five years. Should my friend have received any earnings on this money?
TB: It's my understanding that the employer must restore only the amount that was forfeited. The employer was permitted to use the forfeited amount to reduce future contributions when your friend withdrew her money. When she was re-employed, the employer probably had to re-contribute the amount that had been forfeited.
Ted Benna, creator of the first 401(k) retirement savings plan, will answer your most intriguing
questions every Monday. With over 30 years of experience as an employee benefits
consultant, Ted is a nationally recognized expert on benefits issues.
He has authored two books, Helping Employees Achieve Retirement Income Security
and Escaping the Coming Retirement Crisis, and is President of the 401(k)
Association. Ted is a frequent speaker at meetings of 401(k) plan sponsors and participants.
His articles and comments have appeared in numerous publications, including The New
York Times and The Wall Street Journal.
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